Are you sure that the Turkish and the Russian letters we are talking about could be considered to express the same sound?
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(Check the title of this blog post for several examples.) And I write them about as quickly as I would English characters, in spite of the fact that my keyboard is and English keyboard.
Люди в Гроувленде, маленьком (по меркам Калифорнии) городке в шестьсот жителей, выходили повсечастно улицы, стояли перед своими домами с цветами перманентно подоконниках и смотрели, до какой мере этот пирокумулюс вырастает выше Сьерры-Невады. Я равным образом сама стояла там в благоговении в свой черед ужасе как и понимала без всяких слов, что если не пойдет дождь, то следующие пожары будут сначала ужаснее, а если дожди всё же пойдут и окажутся слишком обильными, то это сожжённые горные склоны смоет наводнениями.
It's definitely more closed than Russian ы (which is relatively open and 'bright' compared to probably most of the analogues), but compares quite well to the Estonian counterpart.
Thank you Outsider! You're links were very useful, and they confirmed my previous knowledge. What I'm actually asking here is whether Romanian and Russian share (given the conditions I outlined above) this sound.
Права до гроба фотографии, которые используются для иллюстрации значений слов, принадлежат их авторам как и владельцам.
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On Italian keyboards, each accented variant has its own dedicated key. These accented vowels are grouped together on the right side of the keyboard.
Now, I listened to some audio files on the Russian alphabet and I came across ы. This is what lead me to pose the above question.
I spoke with people about this and Ïàìÿòíèêè íà ìîãèëó ÑÂÎ â Ìîñêâå they tell me that this delay means it’s quicker to just use the ALT keyboard combinations. These people often have unsightly, aging notes taped to their computers as quick reminders of the combinations.
An acquiatance of mine used to learn Romanian some time ago, and from what I heard from her in Romanian, â sounds very much like ы indeed. I don't think sounds of different languages can be exactly the same, but they can be very, very close.
Turkish ı ought to be like the Japanese 'u' sound (I don't know Japanese kana so I can't write it out)
vince said: Turkish ı ought to be like the Japanese 'u' sound (I don't know Japanese kana so I can't write it out) Click to expand...